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Kamis, 07 Februari 2008

[plasmacutting] Re: repost to reach as many people as I can

Hi Tom,

Going back in history the reason PlasmasPig wants to protect its
files is that a couple of years ago some SOG lifted upwards of a
hundred ready to cut drawings, posted there in goodwill by Pig
members, AND SOLD THEM ON EBAY. Yes, AND SOLD THEM ON EBAY!

I am not a member of the Pig, but I sure think they are wise in
restricting just who can become a member. Maybe this is why you see
virtually no drawings posted to any other plasma cutting board.

The Internet is crawling with creeps… Think about the ramifications
of that!

Bob

--- In plasmacutting@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Kraft" <tomkraft@...>
wrote:
>
> The information from all the Plasma forum's are good. I think it
help's to hear about all the problems and comments of all brands.
>
> I appreciate the fact that Paul wants to start a forum that would
include all user's.
>
> The reason that Plasmapig does not want anybody but PlasmaCam
people on it is because of the shared files. Art C., Plasmapigs
moderator, Emailed me: " The REASON we "protect" our membership is
because of our shared files section."
>
> I can't understand why this group (Plasmapig) thinks it has to
protect their information so badly. Once you buy a CNC plasma cutter,
who cares who made it, or where you get the artwork.
>
> Tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob
> To: plasmacutting@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:25 PM
> Subject: [plasmacutting] Re: repost to reach as many people as I
can
>
>
> Sorry, I should have mentioned this PLASMACUTTING forum also
provides
> valuable info for all kinds of cutters, with all kinds of
machines!
> It has been of great value to me.
>
> What I was addressing was a proposal for another board strictly
for
> those of us what own a PlasmaCam - good or bad! I don't see why
the
> owner of another brand or homemade would be one bit interested in
the
> detail aspects of a Plasmacam.
>
> Then again I don't see any of these boards producing spam. And, I
> think they do a darn good job - so why not just use the Plasma
Tech
> site or Piginfo?
>
> --- In plasmacutting@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" <BobCaesar@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Paul - Good fer you and good luck with this ambitious
effort!
> >
> > I was in on the earliest days of the original PigInfo site and
in
> > fact was a moderator/owner along with Father Gene - way back
when.
> So
> > here's my two cents - I understand you hope to build a stand
alone,
> > site comprised of experienced PlasmaCam owners, AND open it up
> > to "Future Owners" or other "cnc plasma owners or users".
Frankly,
> to
> > do so is to invite the kiss of death!
> >
> > My fear is, no - I am absolutely positive: You'll get bogged
down
> > with "should I buy one?", "which system is best?", "what can I
tell
> > my wife, who doesn't want me to get one", "anyone have a
drawing of
> a
> > cow?", "which cutter is best?", "how's the weather where you
> > live?" , "can I come to your shop to see one?" Yada, yada,
yada..
> >
> > Ok, there is a place for legitimate new owners to ask how to
get
> > started. How to cut down dross? How to get clear air? Where to
buy
> > consumables, etc? PigInfo and the Tech boards fill this role
very
> > nicely, and, thankfully, enjoys do it.
> >
> > In the real world one can't expect serious students of
PlasmaCam to
> > waste valuable time with such. Every board, that has started
and
> > closed (there have been a number) died at least in part from
non-
> > owners posting basic, repetitive (yes, even stupid questions),
> which
> > caused the serious members to look elsewhere. When a board
ceases
> to
> > be useful, no longer adds to our total experience, becomes a
waste
> of
> > our time, it is only natural to stop logging on.
> >
> > My thought would be, as with both PigInfo and Plasma Tech,
require
> > proof of ownership AND ask for a modest annual financial
> contribution
> > to support a useful, informative, totally independent web site.
If
> > it'll be a place for serious PlasmaCamers they certainly won't
mind
> > putting up a few bucks to support it. If they are not serious
then
> > $25 will keep them out! Shoot, $5 will keep 'em out!
> >
> > Then too I wonder why the PLASMACAM SUPPORT GROUP has never
taken
> > off? Frankly, I thought and hoped, it would. You might want to
> talk
> > with them as to why such a well- designed, independent forum
has
> > never grown past startup. Here's that address:
> > http://www.plasmacuttingonline.com
> >
> > Good luck on this ambitious, much needed endeavor! (Where can I
> send
> > my $25?)
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --- In plasmacutting@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Wilson"
<itsnotlevel@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > repost:
> > >
> > > Ok, having this many boards and terrible search abilities and
> porn
> > spam
> > > and whatever else you can name that these boards offer as far
as
> > being
> > > unusable, is just stupid. I am starting a discussion board
for the
> > > PlasmaCam at www.pccommunity.net and I am looking for an
> EXPERIENCED
> > > person or persons to be full permission moderators. I need
someone
> > > mature, experienced, prompt, courteous, simple, upfront, head
> strong
> > > and hopefully someone who has some or a lot of experience in
the
> > > PlasmaCam. You guys can email me here: itsnotlevel at comcast
dot
> > net
> > > and we can chat about the site and the potential for the
site. I
> am
> > > offering the site and everything for free to PlasmaCam
owners,
> > future
> > > owners, past owners and even if you are just a cnc plasma
owner
> or
> > user
> > > at your work. As long as you have some experience in this
area,
> we
> > want
> > > to here what you have to say. There are more than enough
users on
> > all
> > > the yahoo group areas to make pccommunity.net a great
resource.
> Oh,
> > and
> > > I am a PlasmaCam owner.
> > >
> > > Paul Wilson
> > > www.pccommunity.net
> > >
> >
>

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